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		<title>By: Nathan Justice</title>
		<link>http://www.newspacejournal.com/2011/12/29/separating-space-tourism-from-ballooning/comment-page-1/#comment-592641</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan Justice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would not blame zero2infinity for all its arguments against space vehicles at all, because at some point in time, someone has to pay for the ballons and all other associated cost. However, it is still space tourism. Remember that once you cross Amstrong&#039;s line, you are no longer in the troposphere, you are over board, but a valid point from the opposing team that i agree with is, if its not Hawaii, its not the same thing as Hawaii. 
They might come up with ballons that will reach 86km soon, hopefully it does not get jammed by any sharp object in space or alien or &quot;pooped&quot; out in the air, but till then just give them some support and tell zero2infinity to tell their scientist to make very strong ballons for safety reasons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not blame zero2infinity for all its arguments against space vehicles at all, because at some point in time, someone has to pay for the ballons and all other associated cost. However, it is still space tourism. Remember that once you cross Amstrong&#8217;s line, you are no longer in the troposphere, you are over board, but a valid point from the opposing team that i agree with is, if its not Hawaii, its not the same thing as Hawaii.<br />
They might come up with ballons that will reach 86km soon, hopefully it does not get jammed by any sharp object in space or alien or &#8220;pooped&#8221; out in the air, but till then just give them some support and tell zero2infinity to tell their scientist to make very strong ballons for safety reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnHunt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnHunt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 23:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What if the adventures were to be intentionally rocket like?  Start donning a spacesuit, have a countdown.  An adventurer presses a button which detaches their capsule from the ground.  That capsule is attached by a stretched bungee cord to a balloon 1,000 ft in the air so you get the initial acceleration.  At height, another adventurer presses a button, the capsule detaches so you experience weightlessness in the same trip.  Parachutes deploy and you land in water.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if the adventures were to be intentionally rocket like?  Start donning a spacesuit, have a countdown.  An adventurer presses a button which detaches their capsule from the ground.  That capsule is attached by a stretched bungee cord to a balloon 1,000 ft in the air so you get the initial acceleration.  At height, another adventurer presses a button, the capsule detaches so you experience weightlessness in the same trip.  Parachutes deploy and you land in water.</p>
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		<title>By: AshleyZ</title>
		<link>http://www.newspacejournal.com/2011/12/29/separating-space-tourism-from-ballooning/comment-page-1/#comment-588142</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AshleyZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 10:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s reasonable not to label ballooning as space tourism, though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s reasonable not to label ballooning as space tourism, though.</p>
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		<title>By: AshleyZ</title>
		<link>http://www.newspacejournal.com/2011/12/29/separating-space-tourism-from-ballooning/comment-page-1/#comment-588135</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AshleyZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 09:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[High-altitude ballooning seems pretty great to me.  You&#039;re still surrounded by a near-vacuum, and the view will last a lot longer than a suborbital flight.

I disagree with the Caribbean vs. tanning bed analogy.  You could just as well make the analogy that ballooning is like going to the Caribbean without the obnoxious casinos or time-share spiel.  Sure, some people will like the thrill ride, but for others, skipping the vomit-inducing parts of the trip will be a bonus.  Reducing the risk and having a voluminous cabin to walk around in with plenty of amenities is a bonus in my opinion.  Being locked into a claustrophobic tin can, peering through a tiny periscope, and urinating in your suit could be described as part of the &quot;authentic Al Shepard experience&quot;, but I&#039;m willing to sacrifice the authenticity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>High-altitude ballooning seems pretty great to me.  You&#8217;re still surrounded by a near-vacuum, and the view will last a lot longer than a suborbital flight.</p>
<p>I disagree with the Caribbean vs. tanning bed analogy.  You could just as well make the analogy that ballooning is like going to the Caribbean without the obnoxious casinos or time-share spiel.  Sure, some people will like the thrill ride, but for others, skipping the vomit-inducing parts of the trip will be a bonus.  Reducing the risk and having a voluminous cabin to walk around in with plenty of amenities is a bonus in my opinion.  Being locked into a claustrophobic tin can, peering through a tiny periscope, and urinating in your suit could be described as part of the &#8220;authentic Al Shepard experience&#8221;, but I&#8217;m willing to sacrifice the authenticity.</p>
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		<title>By: Friday Links</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Friday Links]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Personal Spaceflight blog has an interesting critique on high altitude balloon tourism &#8211; specifically a discussion the New ScientistÂ article about [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Personal Spaceflight blog has an interesting critique on high altitude balloon tourism &#8211; specifically a discussion the New ScientistÂ article about [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Library: A Round-up of Reading &#124; Res Communis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Library: A Round-up of Reading &#124; Res Communis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 17:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Separating space tourism from ballooning &#8211; NewSpace Journal [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: FlyingCanuk</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was a balloon pilot for many years when I was younger and I have to agree with Jeff.  Even the stratospheric balloons are still aircraft, not spacecraft.  That said, I would still love to take one of these ultra-high altitude flights.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a balloon pilot for many years when I was younger and I have to agree with Jeff.  Even the stratospheric balloons are still aircraft, not spacecraft.  That said, I would still love to take one of these ultra-high altitude flights.</p>
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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, something I can agree with you on Thomas.

The travel industry already has a segment called &quot;Adventure travel&quot; (around $89B spent on it in 2009), so being an &quot;Adventure Astronaut&quot; would not be a big leap.

However I don&#039;t see the terms sticking in general usage, just as &quot;pilot&quot; is the generic term for someone that is a pilot, regardless if it&#039;s for pleasure or work.  Same with &quot;tourist&quot;, I think it&#039;s generic enough to describe someone that is visiting from somewhere else, regardless if they are going to Cleveland or Low Earth Orbit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, something I can agree with you on Thomas.</p>
<p>The travel industry already has a segment called &#8220;Adventure travel&#8221; (around $89B spent on it in 2009), so being an &#8220;Adventure Astronaut&#8221; would not be a big leap.</p>
<p>However I don&#8217;t see the terms sticking in general usage, just as &#8220;pilot&#8221; is the generic term for someone that is a pilot, regardless if it&#8217;s for pleasure or work.  Same with &#8220;tourist&#8221;, I think it&#8217;s generic enough to describe someone that is visiting from somewhere else, regardless if they are going to Cleveland or Low Earth Orbit.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Matula</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Matula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought many of individuals who bought seats on the Soyuz didnâ€™t like the term space tourist being used for personal spaceflight. And that is fair enough as states like Florida and Texas are more then happy to claim it to describe the millions visiting them each year to explore their space history. And it follows if visiting sites like KSC and JSC is space tourism then this type of venture, as well as XCOR flights, would qualify as well.

 http://www.cctcorp.com/tourism/WP-SpaceTourism-043002.pdf

So I make the following suggestion. Letâ€™s call folks traveling to satisfying their interest in space as space tourists, including the millions who visit KSC and JSC each year. 

Then letâ€™s call private individuals that actually fly into space (above 100 kilometers) for leisure and adventure â€œAdventure Astronautsâ€. This not only is a more descriptive term, it also places them in the proper tourist industry classification as Adventure Tourists. 

Meanwhile those who travel to space for business purposes, as have many of the private individuals that bought Soyuz rides, would be classified commercial astronauts, a term already in use by the FAA AST. 

This classification system is not only more descriptive, but is also far more functional in terms of space policy, regulation and marketing. For example, a key motivational goal for adventure tourists (like those climbing Mt. Everest) is the personal challenge and risks involved. So by using the term Adventure Astronauts you render the arguments that suborbital HSF needs to be &quot;as safe as commercial air travel&quot; null and void since doing so would be counter productive to the market served. It would also serve to bunt public outcry if there is an accident, since the public expects folks taking adventure risks to die occasionally, as on Mt. Everest. The public tends to feel in these cases that the folks involved need the risks and freely choose to take them. 

And under that system these balloon flights would be seen as both space tourism, given the key role of high attitude ballooning in HSF history, and adventure ballooning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought many of individuals who bought seats on the Soyuz didnâ€™t like the term space tourist being used for personal spaceflight. And that is fair enough as states like Florida and Texas are more then happy to claim it to describe the millions visiting them each year to explore their space history. And it follows if visiting sites like KSC and JSC is space tourism then this type of venture, as well as XCOR flights, would qualify as well.</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.cctcorp.com/tourism/WP-SpaceTourism-043002.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cctcorp.com/tourism/WP-SpaceTourism-043002.pdf</a></p>
<p>So I make the following suggestion. Letâ€™s call folks traveling to satisfying their interest in space as space tourists, including the millions who visit KSC and JSC each year. </p>
<p>Then letâ€™s call private individuals that actually fly into space (above 100 kilometers) for leisure and adventure â€œAdventure Astronautsâ€. This not only is a more descriptive term, it also places them in the proper tourist industry classification as Adventure Tourists. </p>
<p>Meanwhile those who travel to space for business purposes, as have many of the private individuals that bought Soyuz rides, would be classified commercial astronauts, a term already in use by the FAA AST. </p>
<p>This classification system is not only more descriptive, but is also far more functional in terms of space policy, regulation and marketing. For example, a key motivational goal for adventure tourists (like those climbing Mt. Everest) is the personal challenge and risks involved. So by using the term Adventure Astronauts you render the arguments that suborbital HSF needs to be &#8220;as safe as commercial air travel&#8221; null and void since doing so would be counter productive to the market served. It would also serve to bunt public outcry if there is an accident, since the public expects folks taking adventure risks to die occasionally, as on Mt. Everest. The public tends to feel in these cases that the folks involved need the risks and freely choose to take them. </p>
<p>And under that system these balloon flights would be seen as both space tourism, given the key role of high attitude ballooning in HSF history, and adventure ballooning.</p>
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		<title>By: Transterrestrial Musings - Ballooning Is Not Spaceflight</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Transterrestrial Musings - Ballooning Is Not Spaceflight]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Foust has to explain this to The New [...]]]></description>
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