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		<title>By: Buck.Bundy</title>
		<link>http://www.newspacejournal.com/2007/10/26/planetspace-lockheed-martin-and-spaceport-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-216796</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buck.Bundy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[This post precedes two previous]

Dr Keith,

youtube.com/watch?v=GipFyAsYK1M

:)

&quot;We aint dead yet&quot; 

You&#039;re either;
#1 - Their greatest FanBoy.
#2 - An insider with the company.

If it&#039;s #1, enjoy the above video. If it&#039;s # 2 enjoy the above video but consider answering some questions that have been causing the Alt. Space community to draw the conclusions that you seem to dislike so much.

I realize that PlanetSpace does not OWE anyone but it&#039;s shareholders any explanations.
But, with an absence of information we (the Alt. Space community) will draw our own conclusions and discuss them freely here and on other online forums, that&#039;s our right.

Up front, I will stipulate that the work Canadian Arrow did during X-Prize 1.0. (Their Engine development and drop tests) was a testament to what the spirit of the Alt. Space community envisions these companies to be.

My issue is with PlanetSpace. Starting with their press conference in the spring of 2005 where they committed to flight in 24 months. &quot;it is a goal we can easily attain&quot; - Geoff Sheerin (http://www.history.ca/ontv/titledetails.aspx?titleid=79312)

[Continued - two posts above]

My $ 0.02 worth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[This post precedes two previous]</p>
<p>Dr Keith,</p>
<p>youtube.com/watch?v=GipFyAsYK1M</p>
<p><img src="http://www.newspacejournal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
<p>&#8220;We aint dead yet&#8221; </p>
<p>You&#8217;re either;<br />
#1 &#8211; Their greatest FanBoy.<br />
#2 &#8211; An insider with the company.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s #1, enjoy the above video. If it&#8217;s # 2 enjoy the above video but consider answering some questions that have been causing the Alt. Space community to draw the conclusions that you seem to dislike so much.</p>
<p>I realize that PlanetSpace does not OWE anyone but it&#8217;s shareholders any explanations.<br />
But, with an absence of information we (the Alt. Space community) will draw our own conclusions and discuss them freely here and on other online forums, that&#8217;s our right.</p>
<p>Up front, I will stipulate that the work Canadian Arrow did during X-Prize 1.0. (Their Engine development and drop tests) was a testament to what the spirit of the Alt. Space community envisions these companies to be.</p>
<p>My issue is with PlanetSpace. Starting with their press conference in the spring of 2005 where they committed to flight in 24 months. &#8220;it is a goal we can easily attain&#8221; &#8211; Geoff Sheerin (<a href="http://www.history.ca/ontv/titledetails.aspx?titleid=79312" rel="nofollow">http://www.history.ca/ontv/titledetails.aspx?titleid=79312</a>)</p>
<p>[Continued &#8211; two posts above]</p>
<p>My $ 0.02 worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Buck.Bundy</title>
		<link>http://www.newspacejournal.com/2007/10/26/planetspace-lockheed-martin-and-spaceport-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-216793</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buck.Bundy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[From previous post]

- What&#039;s happening in Nova Scotia?
(There has been no word of a deal in Nova Scotia. Their COTS milestone # 5 was for title to a property to be used for their launch site, but, &quot;A spokeswoman for Nova Scotia Business Inc. confirmed that the government agency is in discussions with PlanetSpace to provide land for the launch site. It was reported last year
that NSB Inc. planned to provide 120 hectares of land for the project, but spokeswoman Sarah Levy said there are still many &quot;moving parts&quot; in the negotiations and that numbers are
not final.&quot; as of October 26th 2007)

- What&#039;s the affiliation with SPACE505050.com?
(This one is self explanatory, just go to the website yourself.)

- What&#039;s with the other Websites?
(Even DaVinci projects websites are better and more up to date.)

Thanks for your consideration.

Your comments and participation are really appreciated. You might consider joining in here;

http://spacefellowship.com/Forum/about3403.html

We have a spirited discussion, but it&#039;s all good fun. :)

My $ 0.02 worth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[From previous post]</p>
<p>&#8211; What&#8217;s happening in Nova Scotia?<br />
(There has been no word of a deal in Nova Scotia. Their COTS milestone # 5 was for title to a property to be used for their launch site, but, &#8220;A spokeswoman for Nova Scotia Business Inc. confirmed that the government agency is in discussions with PlanetSpace to provide land for the launch site. It was reported last year<br />
that NSB Inc. planned to provide 120 hectares of land for the project, but spokeswoman Sarah Levy said there are still many &#8220;moving parts&#8221; in the negotiations and that numbers are<br />
not final.&#8221; as of October 26th 2007)</p>
<p>&#8211; What&#8217;s the affiliation with SPACE505050.com?<br />
(This one is self explanatory, just go to the website yourself.)</p>
<p>&#8211; What&#8217;s with the other Websites?<br />
(Even DaVinci projects websites are better and more up to date.)</p>
<p>Thanks for your consideration.</p>
<p>Your comments and participation are really appreciated. You might consider joining in here;</p>
<p><a href="http://spacefellowship.com/Forum/about3403.html" rel="nofollow">http://spacefellowship.com/Forum/about3403.html</a></p>
<p>We have a spirited discussion, but it&#8217;s all good fun. <img src="http://www.newspacejournal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
<p>My $ 0.02 worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Buck.Bundy</title>
		<link>http://www.newspacejournal.com/2007/10/26/planetspace-lockheed-martin-and-spaceport-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-216792</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buck.Bundy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[From previous post]

Questions;

- What happened to Canadian Arrow? 
(Were they bough or merged into PlanetSpace, operating as a division of PlanetSpace or are they still a separate company?)

- If, as you say, PlanetSpace changed their minds and decided not to complete the Arrow vehicle, why no press release? 
(I have seen articles pointing to a sub-orbital version of their Golden-Dart, but have seen nothing about scrapping the Arrow. I expected to have seen, in classic Canadian Arrow fashion, press releases about successful tests with video/pictures. What have they been working on that they can&#039;t show ANYTHING, Antigravity propulsion?)

- Have they met their COTS 1.0 unfunded SAA milestones?
(Seeing as this document is public, and every other company releases details of the successful completion of their milestones, why doesn&#039;t PlanetSpace?)

-Don&#039;t you think this whole IRB thing is hinkey? 

(One minute the reports are that they&#039;re getting a 45 mil. IRB, the next day the Ministry of industry is saying they haven&#039;t spoken with them and &quot;NEVER WILL&quot;. Two days later another spokesperson for the ministry releases another press release saying the same thing.
Then their lobbyist, Fred Doucet, is named in a Federal scandal and is the subject of a Federal inquiry. Then Doucet removes himself from the lobbyist registry.)

- What&#039;s happening in Ohio? 
(In the summer, there was a lot of press about PlanetSpace being close to signing major deals. They signed a small one for equipment purchase, but that&#039;s it.)

[See next post]

My $ 0.02 worth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[From previous post]</p>
<p>Questions;</p>
<p>&#8211; What happened to Canadian Arrow?<br />
(Were they bough or merged into PlanetSpace, operating as a division of PlanetSpace or are they still a separate company?)</p>
<p>&#8211; If, as you say, PlanetSpace changed their minds and decided not to complete the Arrow vehicle, why no press release?<br />
(I have seen articles pointing to a sub-orbital version of their Golden-Dart, but have seen nothing about scrapping the Arrow. I expected to have seen, in classic Canadian Arrow fashion, press releases about successful tests with video/pictures. What have they been working on that they can&#8217;t show ANYTHING, Antigravity propulsion?)</p>
<p>&#8211; Have they met their COTS 1.0 unfunded SAA milestones?<br />
(Seeing as this document is public, and every other company releases details of the successful completion of their milestones, why doesn&#8217;t PlanetSpace?)</p>
<p>-Don&#8217;t you think this whole IRB thing is hinkey? </p>
<p>(One minute the reports are that they&#8217;re getting a 45 mil. IRB, the next day the Ministry of industry is saying they haven&#8217;t spoken with them and &#8220;NEVER WILL&#8221;. Two days later another spokesperson for the ministry releases another press release saying the same thing.<br />
Then their lobbyist, Fred Doucet, is named in a Federal scandal and is the subject of a Federal inquiry. Then Doucet removes himself from the lobbyist registry.)</p>
<p>&#8211; What&#8217;s happening in Ohio?<br />
(In the summer, there was a lot of press about PlanetSpace being close to signing major deals. They signed a small one for equipment purchase, but that&#8217;s it.)</p>
<p>[See next post]</p>
<p>My $ 0.02 worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Buck.Bundy</title>
		<link>http://www.newspacejournal.com/2007/10/26/planetspace-lockheed-martin-and-spaceport-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-216749</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buck.Bundy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ron,

I suspect that everyone that follows Alt.Space wishes them well. On the condition that what their press releases say is true and not &quot;Snake-Oil&quot;.

:)

My $ 0.02 worth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron,</p>
<p>I suspect that everyone that follows Alt.Space wishes them well. On the condition that what their press releases say is true and not &#8220;Snake-Oil&#8221;.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.newspacejournal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
<p>My $ 0.02 worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Ry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Ry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr Keith:
Did you say &quot;We&quot;? Does this mean you are one of the team members?
In this case I wish you and others at Planetspace good luck!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Keith:<br />
Did you say &#8220;We&#8221;? Does this mean you are one of the team members?<br />
In this case I wish you and others at Planetspace good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr Keith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.planetspace.org/pdf/PressRelease112107.pdf
Hey this is not over and to all of you doubters:
We aint dead yet :)
Dr Keith]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.planetspace.org/pdf/PressRelease112107.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.planetspace.org/pdf/PressRelease112107.pdf</a><br />
Hey this is not over and to all of you doubters:<br />
We aint dead yet <img src="http://www.newspacejournal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /><br />
Dr Keith</p>
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		<title>By: Personal Spaceflight &#187; No Lockheed money for PlanetSpace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Personal Spaceflight &#187; No Lockheed money for PlanetSpace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] in all the developments surrounding the X Prize Cup was a report that Lockheed Martin would invest $45 million towards the development of a spaceport in Nova Scotia for P.... Well, so much for that. The Globe and Mail reported a day later that Canadian officials had [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] in all the developments surrounding the X Prize Cup was a report that Lockheed Martin would invest $45 million towards the development of a spaceport in Nova Scotia for P&#8230;. Well, so much for that. The Globe and Mail reported a day later that Canadian officials had [&#8230;]</p>
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